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DOTW - Judge of character

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Posted: 13 years ago

Here's our first Discussion of the Week - Judge of Character  
How do we judge TA's character / and or when do we judge TA's character? 

"Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny."

-Unknown


We've seen some admirable characteristics and some really off-putting characteristics of TA, but it's the combination of these characteristics that are all part of being a human. However, at what point does a simple action go from being a mistake to being a characteristic? Another question is when do we judge someone's character? In TA's case, should we avoid judging TA's character as it's forced due to circumstances or does tough situations bring out one's real character? 

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Posted: 13 years ago
Hmmm...TA char be judged easily...But not now...TA is simple, jovial , short tempered , Highly possessive , who is longing for love and Highly Self-governed guy who can never tolerate betryal and suspecting his char....That too when he thinks himself that thulz is not caring for him or suspecting him he gets workedup...Otherwise we can judge his char by his action sequence like in court..He is simply superb
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Posted: 13 years ago
TA can be seen as a human being who has his own strengths and weaknesses. No doubt he means well to everyone and has no malice in his mind. But he is driven by both his circumstances and the false beliefs he has. Earlier he believed, love between two persons is enough for the marriage to be successful. He never thought whether love-birds where mature enough to support each other and be for each other through thick and thin. His actions could have caused persons like AP's daughter in sorrow. He is also driven by guilt he has within him for ditching Charu for which one reason is he wouldn't speak at the right time. Unfortunately the guilt was fanned by his mom, Charu for their selfish ends and even Thulasi. Though he has good intentions, he is still not totally worldly wise. Hopefully he will learn to be better in dealing with people, as he is through painful circumstances.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Well, TA being a happy-go-lucky person before but now he is stressed out due to his personal probs.But in nature he is a helpful guy, bold, chatterbox, moreover he is a kind hearted person. Mukkiyama he never cares about the people around him'he does whatever he wishes...That's the reason why he is now landing in a pool of probs and many of his family members are taking advantage of him and we viewers detest him due to his innocence.
 
He supports love marriages but at many times, he never thinks about the consequences he wants the couple to be happy at that moment.  However, he must try to convince the couples parents and with their help he can do it so when the couples have some they have their parents to lend a helping hand .He don't like people who is pointing out his mistakes whether his friends or his wife. May be the dir wants to change this char of TA to lead successful married life without any probs. But we viewers get irritated due to his dumbness.
 
But he is not a MCP but he behaves as if he knows everything which is affecting his soul mate and due to this char he is losing all his happiness, friends support everything in his life. One thing which we viewers don't like is'he is showing his anger towards his gullible wife to distress himself. And one thing we need to praise TA char he forgives people easily and he won't let others to humiliate his wife at any cost. He is a normal human being.According to me, very difficult to judge his char coz his mood swings'Never judge a book by its cover........
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Posted: 13 years ago

TA is under a lot of stress right now! He feels guilty about not having a job and scared about the things happening around him right now.

Life at this moment is teaching him money is everything..to add it to all he got really insulted when Padma screamed at him and said if you dont give me the money now I will let everyone know about your inefficiency...
 
Without knowing how to get a job, how to help himself and Tulasi in this financial crisis he is confused.  He expects big moral support from Tulasi at this most difficult stage of his life but Tulasi from his point of view is creating even more problems for him..so he is really mad at Tulasi...
 
From my point of view this is a very common behaviour of human beings ..to let out their anger on people whom they think are very close to them.
 
He never hesitates to shout at Joseph, Kanagu or even Anandh when they do any mistake..because he knows they are his friends and they will understand him..in the same way he is getting mad at Tulasi and Deepa..he knows even if he makes a mistake they will never leave him...
 
So I feel TA is the same old TA still..he is just under pressure and this is not his real self...he will bounce back soon..to the same Sweet TA we all loved
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Posted: 13 years ago

TA started off as being jovial, friendly, talkative, kind, family-loving, helping, take-at-face value person. His basic and most important trait is the tendency to help others taking their face value -- which has won our praises and also landed him in a lot of problems he is still deep in!!
He gives importance to his family and friendship. (although most times, I have noticed his friends helping/bailing him out from troubles!) His love to family is what makes him blindly believe his sis, and mom. Even for Lav's marriage, he took more initiative than his brother which proves this point.

His helping tendency is what finally  culminated in his marriage with T.

Also, he is unable to judge someone unless the involved person is someone outwardly bad/cruel like vel, padma!!
He does love T deep down and would never make any compromises on that; although he is unable to communicate / better express his feelings at times! This is contrary to his being a chatterbox! His inability to communicate at the right time has also landed him in soup as with Charu's marriage issue! If only he had mentioned this to C, many issues cud have been averted! Also, he is short-tempered and impulsive at times! Even with T, he has hidden a lot of things!

The important flaw in him is helping a person w/o analysing someone's character -- finding if the person is worth of his help! He has lost his job and also had C at his home causing all troubles on account of this!!

Well, recently we have noticed so much change in his character!! May be tough situations are just bringing out the worst in him!! He has lost his ability to analyse, think and wants T to listen to him and forgotten that she shud be treated as his better-half! Money is not everything but he is still not able to understand that he needs that minimum amt to run his household and loses his calm being unable to handle tough situations!!

His love for family, esp Lav/Mom is what is causing all the problems he is in now! His love for his sis is what made him forgive VR and unite Lav and Nit! (Not comparing here, but Nit does seem to understand and analyse his wife better than TA!) Ta with all the knowledge abt T shud be able to trust and understand her better than anyone else! His lack of the ability to analyse, observe and understand his wife / any other person is landing him in multiple problems. He is unable to understand why Charu frequents his home inspite of  her marriage with him breaking down! Would any normal sensible woman behave that way? Did he think that the doctor is mad to talk abt Charu? He doesn't think that T will never ever take the risk of accusing GW/Lav of having the money? The kind of trust he had on his wife when the whole world was against her and he did not even meet/see/talk to her after the accident should have been nurtured by him to become stronger. Rather, his character seems to have been going down in value after that! He did not trust his mother then when she spit poison on T after his accident. Also he is biased abt  judging some people -- he doesn't like Sudha even if she talks right!! he trusts Charu/lav / gw no matter what!

Overall, I believe that he had some of these flaws earlier, but these were latent when the circumstances were fine. Now these have just taken shape in huge proportions. The same tough situations that have weakened TA's character have strengthened and moulded T's character beautifully.
I just hope that he will soon be awakened by Nit/periappa abt GW/C and until then we may have to wait for the old TA!
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Posted: 13 years ago
Nice Thread, Thank you for posting it..!!

TA is basically a very nice guy. He is good by his heart. He is a normal person who has happiness, sadness, everything what a normal person will be having..!! As there is a saying that character of a person will be known when they are in tough situations, He is a short-tempered guy.

He has both positive and negative side of characters..
Positive Ones : Good hearted, Jovial, Sometimes bold, Forgiving mind, Lovable, Respects friendship and love, Loves his family,

Negative Ones : Short tempered, Speaking straightly whatever he thinks in mind sometimes which may hurt people, Doesn't think about the consequences for what he do. Doesn't know what he is talking when he is in anger. Doesn't think twice.

Now also he has been insulted by Padma so he is getting so much frustrated. As a normal man he doesn't know anything about Charu and GW's intension, Cos they have always been nice in front of TA. So he has no doubt on them. Thulasi talking directly to his mom which he saw made him to think and doubt on Thulasi, and when Sudha told about Deepa again he came to a conclusion that Deepa and Thulasi are making mistakes. But when he comes to know their(GW and Charu's) true intension he will surely apologize to Deepa and Thulasi. That is his normal character cos he doesn't know anything which is happening in the back. He has no chance to get start to doubt them.

Being a short tempered guy, one of the negative side of character he has talked harshly to Deepa with all the frustration which he had on Padma

As you have said :
"Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny."

Positive Side on this saying :
He has so much good thoughts about love marriage in his mind, for which they became his words when he was speaking to everyone who are in love.
His words showed its action automatically by helping others in love marriage.
His actions made him a habit as once he helped one of his friend, it became his habit of conducting love marriages to the known people.
His habit came to show his character as one who respects love.
His character made him to reach his destiny where he landed up in marrying Thulasi(love marriage).

Negetive Side on this saying :
He had his frustration on Deepa and Thulasi in his thoughts which came as words while speaking to them.
While speaking to them his actions were also like his words.
Yeah by this action of him we can say the short temper is his habit,
Since getting angry and shouting is becoming a habit, It is one of his negative side of character,
Since he is following his character, He is going to end up repenting for what he did..!!

Lets see how the story is going to go..!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
There is a simple logic on how he behaves this way. The way he behaves is consistent with his character. He easily believes people and never tries to see they could be upto some shady dealings. He believed Murugeshan and went on to help him out of the way. From what we are seeing, I don't think he has understood that Anand has troubled him a lot. Thus he never understands people could cheat him in a covert way. But he has full idea of what Sudha did to thwart the marriage plans his mom was making and also the way Sudha hid information. Therefore he has developed bad impression of Sudha. Again Sudha is not a smooth talker. Also he had warned Thulasi earlier not to listen to Sudha. But Deepa took Thulasi to Sudha's house and there Sudha had told a lot to Thulasi. He could also see Thulasi's change. He has the impression that Sudha could corrupt Thulasi as Sudha didn't like his mom and Laavanya. But like Anand or Murugeshan, his mom, Laavanya or Charu all have done things covertly and so he wouldn't suspect them. And as Deepa took his wife to Sudha, he is angry with Deepa also. All we can expect is now, he will learn from his mistakes. Who can tell him that he must not believe that everything white is not milk. Hopefully Thulasi could show him the truth by being an example. Again when his mom overtly hated Thulasi, he showed he is with his wife. But he is clueless over his mom's covert dealings.
Edited by maha2us - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Originally posted by: lakshyam

TA is under a lot of stress right now! He feels guilty about not having a job and scared about the things happening around him right now.

Life at this moment is teaching him money is everything..to add it to all he got really insulted when Padma screamed at him and said if you dont give me the money now I will let everyone know about your inefficiency...
 
Without knowing how to get a job, how to help himself and Tulasi in this financial crisis he is confused.  He expects big moral support from Tulasi at this most difficult stage of his life but Tulasi from his point of view is creating even more problems for him..so he is really mad at Tulasi...
 
From my point of view this is a very common behaviour of human beings ..to let out their anger on people whom they think are very close to them.
 
He never hesitates to shout at Joseph, Kanagu or even Anandh when they do any mistake..because he knows they are his friends and they will understand him..in the same way he is getting mad at Tulasi and Deepa..he knows even if he makes a mistake they will never leave him...
 
So I feel TA is the same old TA still..he is just under pressure and this is not his real self...he will bounce back soon..to the same Sweet TA we all loved

very true.You just wrote what was in my mind.He is a circumstantial victim.When you are  financialy sound if someone calls you a begger you might just shoo him off,but if you are in real trouble and on top of it if someone calls you a begger, reaction will be different
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Posted: 13 years ago
Originally posted by: lakshyam

TA is under a lot of stress right now! He feels guilty about not having a job and scared about the things happening around him right now.

Without knowing how to get a job, how to help himself and Tulasi in this financial crisis he is confused.  He expects big moral support from Tulasi at this most difficult stage of his life but Tulasi from his point of view is creating even more problems for him..so he is really mad at Tulasi...



No use feeling guilty. He has to make the effort to find a job. and dun tell tell me he doesn't know how to look for one, he is just being negligent abt it and finding a way to escape it thru by borrowing money now. But he fails to realise that this thing will not solve his problem, it'll only aggravate it, and the only thing which can put a full stop is getting a job. And I think its more avamaanam to go ard begging ppl for money. Honestly, I can't understand this aspect abt him. Everything else is fine.