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Posted: 11 years ago
I feel we are being misunderstood!

So I have taken time and written this so we are not being misunderstood and we get straight and clear answers to our queries.

What we all are trying to say or want is that

1) DT required for Less Active Forums
Even for less active forums we should atleast have 1 viewbie. According to me their is no harm of having one viewbie! Even a non-active forum needs to be taken care of and CM alone cannot manage everything. Its jst like opening up a shop and just coz you have less customers you leave it unattended and just expect owner to visit once in a day or few days and organise it. Their is no harm of keeping atleast one staff even if less traffic and if viewbie is made they can think of ideas of getting the forum active or fun even if its for just couple of people that visit. Why so much stress and responsibility is put on a CM. handling more 5+ forums isnt easy and think of ways to get them active!! Having a viewbie for a non-active forum means increasing its chances to get popular as that viewbie can devot the time to the forum and come up with ways and if they those ways and ideas dont work it still okay! No harm still in having a viewbie! Its not like wages are being paid to the viewbie and IF has something to lose by making a viewbie for the forum!!!

2) Coolbies to upgrade
When deciding on DT for a forum, Coolbies should be considered does not mean that coolbies are already part of the DT so they cannot become viewbies or mods etc. If they are working hard they should be appriciated and regarded for it. A new member shouldnt be choosen and here we are not saying that all Coolbies should be upgraded but it should be taken in regards that coolbies need to be upgraded if they are putting more efforts then just doing written updates! It does not mean that they are already part of DT lets give a non-DT member chance to be part of DT. It shouldnt be like that

3) DT should be from the forum itself
DT assigned for a forum, should be an active member of the forum. Outsider should not be choosen. It is v.rare that a forum wouldnt have a member that is capable to become a DT. It is any fair to all the members in the forum who are constantly active and giving time to the forum to be ignored and introduce a completely new non-active member to the forum! If not given a chance no one will learn to be a DT. None of us our born to be a DT we all learn with the responsibilities and opportunity given to us.

4) No replies regarding complaints
Why their is no reply regarding complaints or issues we have! Why we are not being answered and ignored? 

Are current DT Mr/Miss Perfect that they never lost their cool or never made mistake?
Its not sensible and right thing that if a member has lost their cool coz of another member being rude and if they reply back means they cannot be part of DT
What matters if they realise the mistake and do not repeat it

Does it mean if you are a DT and openely someone is misbehaving with a member that you cannot tell them off openly
I Do Not Believe in Gandhi and his ethics and if i do not follow them does not mean I'm not a deserving person and if openely a member is being insulted an open reply is not to be given

5) Criteria for becoming a Coolbie
No mentioning name but a member that was openly RUDE is made a Coolbie, so what if they do written updates what happened to the criteria of being part of DT and not being rude or creating a troublesome environment in the forum!!

OR the critieria for coolbie differs does not matter if they are not mature and creating a troublesome environment they do updates so are made coolbie
BUT 
when it comes to choosing a viewbie or mod etc, all these things come in consideration. The member need have a clean slate, never did anything wrong ETC

6) Its right to put false accusations on members?
Are coolbies not members? Where in the rules does it states once you become DT you cannot open a thread in the Suggestion and Comments Section. Please englighten us.

Where in this whole post a DT has been insulted? or bashed?

Does it mean if you are a DT you have the right to put false acusations? Members have no right to speak their points?
Does it mean if you are a DT you cannot explain to us the procedure or reason regarding promotions?

7) No one is Targetting
We are not targetting any DT or DT's that are promoted. They are not at fault and no one is blaming or insulting. We are just giving and example and just questioning. We have nothing against the person promoted. Please do not take us wrong!

We are not saying people promoted are at fault as its not in their hand they got promoted!
We have problems with the selection critiera and how the selection was done for the promotions. As no offence no targets but incase of some promotions their were more deserving people who could have been part of the DT then the ones promoted. This does not at all mean we have anything against who got promoted.


Thanks to Gagan she understood our issue and offered a very good solution which could definately be taken in consideration!

Or we could rotate DT's every year 6 months just like elections so everyone gets a chance to experience and learn!

If India-Forums was created then Admins should come and give time to it. Just like we are doing, if Admins are going to be away from the forum they need to organise a back up Admin!
When you take up a responsibility you cannot just give up! 
Its like running a business after six months you cant stay i have few things on my hand i'm busy i cannot come to the shop! you jst dont leave your shop with staff. You do assign a manager who is capable and can take care of all! In business coz of your personal things you do not make the customers suffer! Do You?

Its not right the promotions are delayed for more then 6 months! Forum and members are suffering! IF time was taken to build IF and take it to such great heights please do not let it go down now!

Please understand our complaint this time. In simple words one by one I have listed i think all the issues stated here.

Please GM and Admins Give Us a Reply
Straightforward reply to each bullet point.

We are not bashing. We are not being rude. We are not disrespecting anyone.


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Posted: 11 years ago

@EkSapnoKiPari-Well done 👏 👏 you covered all the important points 👏 👏

Amazing Post Now I Think It wil Be Easier For Admin To Understand What We Want.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Bang on supi agreed to all points @admins now we expect straight ans and also pls take into consideration gagan dis point
rechus thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
@EkSapnoKiPari well said...excellent post...hope IF higher authority open their eyes to read this...that much u cleared all...hope they will not read n ignore this...
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi All,

As you all know India-Forums started as a blog and today its a multi-forum covering all the popular channels and has been continously evolving with time. There might have been time where we might have missed out something or should have done few things differently.

Without going much deep into that I would just like to assure you all that I will be going through all the posts in this thread and will be discussing with my fellow senior DT members and figure out a long term solution and have a system in place which will be more transparent which removes the doubt of us being biased.

I know that you all have waited long and would just ask you all to have little patience while we discuss and sort this issue.

Regards,
Vijay Bhatter


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Posted: 11 years ago
I would also like to add that while you are making suggestions please dont be rude to any other Dev Team member as they are also volunteering just like the coolbies to make sure that India-Forums remains a vibrant community and they have really worked hard to ensure India-forums remains a healthy discussion forum..

Regards,
Vijay Bhatter 
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thanks a lot vijay bhaiyya for taking ur time and replying us...hopefully the requied steps will be taken soon...we waited for long time and will have patience for few more days 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
Originally posted by: vijay

I would also like to add that while you are making suggestions please dont be rude to any other Dev Team member as they are also volunteering just like the coolbies to make sure that India-Forums remains a vibrant community and they have really worked hard to ensure India-forums remains a healthy discussion forum..

Regards,
Vijay Bhatter 


First of all sorry for tht bhaiyya...few lost their temper when they did nt got their answers and also for false accusations on them...Extremely sorry if they got offended/hurt...🤗🤗🤗 
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Posted: 11 years ago
Originally posted by: vijay

Hi All,

As you all know India-Forums started as a blog and today its a multi-forum covering all the popular channels and has been continously evolving with time. There might have been time where we might have missed out something or should have done few things differently.

Without going much deep into that I would just like to assure you all that I will be going through all the posts in this thread and will be discussing with my fellow senior DT members and figure out a long term solution and have a system in place which will be more transparent which removes the doubt of us being biased.

I know that you all have waited long and would just ask you all to have little patience while we discuss and sort this issue.

Regards,
Vijay Bhatter




Thanks you Vijay Sir for supportive reply, and we assure you to have Patiencefull , pls Sort the problem out with Long term solution.
As Gagan(Skylight) mam suggested , that there should be a New Ladder group named "Workbie" or "Trainiebie" which will contain members who are Eligible ,who had done hardwork, who are active, who really deserves ,neglecting their silly mistakes( that they will never Repeat again nor repeated) which they had done, who organised posts and done everything as stated in "How to Join DT??" to be Viewbie, and then give them Training and proper guidence,so that New members like us can get their required results which we deserve. I hope our hardwork will not get neglected again now. We strongly believe in You Vijay sir, Priya mam, Shruti and Aahaana thats why our Expectations are wide from you guys.

Best Regards,
Dev.
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Posted: 11 years ago
And again I'm repeating Honorable Admins,
pls neglect the mistake of members as we All are Humans ,and Nobody is perfect. And if the member apolised and didn't repeated again but he/she had done Every hard work to be Viewbie then their hardwork should not go in Drains for their mistake. They should get training as suggested.

Thanks you . Regards