The Sex Debate - Page 3

Posted: 11 years ago
Originally posted by -Aarya-


How important is the identity of your gender? --      Some ppl stole identity...bt its okay though, they gave it back when their kids called him daddy..

I am talking about gender, the mental aspect, not sex as the physical aspect! 
 
 
Gender doenst matter bt ppl need to control their wh**emones!
Posted: 11 years ago
Originally posted by -Aarya-


Let me clarify my question with some details...

Why is person's gender (sex) identity (male/female/others) so important to people? How important is our gender identity?  Is gender really an expression of one's essential self?


Society makes gender an essential part: our perceptions and responses are tailored towards either gender from a very early age. We expect men and women or girls and boys to behave, dress, even think, in particular ways. Look at how society at large still treats individuals that do not fall into the neat categories that we have imposed on individuals from birth: transvestites and transexuals, for example. Even homosexuals.

I also think this applies to online fora/social networking sites: we still like to know if we're communicating with a male or female so that we have an idea of what to expect. I guess one could say society uses gender as a means of filtering and imposing as well as gleaning identity at the two major levels.

Is gender really an expression of one's essential self: yes in a way because we live in a world where it has become essential. Do I believe it is essential: personally no. I like to look beyond gender to the individual.
Edited by moomin4455 - 11 years ago
Posted: 11 years ago
Yes, gender identity is really important socially. We are constantly being "gendered" right from infancy, and sometimes even while in the womb. But gendering is a social process, which means that it is learned behaviour that responds to systems of thought and cultural practices all around us.

Biologically speaking, sex is a huge spectrum. Most people who study it medically would tell us that there are a range of physiological as well as biological characteristics that are in between what is technically classified as female and what is technically classified as male.

Some feminist theorists (e.g. Judith Butler) have argued that gender behaviour is so important socially, and that we are so emotionally committed to the supposed binary nature of gender, that we have mapped learned gender characteristics (our gendered behaviour) onto biology. So her argument is that we map gender onto sex, just so that we can believe that sex is binary. It's an argument that has merit, especially because biological data does back that up, as I mentioned above. Most biological data that explains behaviour through purely genetic data is fairly flimsy and a lot of questions remain about why that kind of research is important.

(I won't comment here on the "gene industry" and what kind of research fund motivates that kind of research - there is an awesome book out there called Biology as Ideology by Richard Lewontin which lays out a compelling argument, backed by empirical data, about how ideology and societal forces - such as capitalism - influences "cold, hard" scientific facts that we believe to be based on unbiased truths).

Then the question remains about how and why we stick our learned gendered traits. The answer to that, according to Butler, is that we perform gender all the time in response to the world, kind of like drag to take an extreme example. It is part of our social existence. Some other feminist theorists have taken some issue with that, saying that Butler's arguments about performativity make it seem like gender is a choice, and it is a lot more complicated than that. Words like gendered and gendering draw attention to the fact that these are social processes, and we don't have a choice, as an individual, to necessarily resist social processes that occur to us/through us.
Posted: 11 years ago

What could be the social compulsions to know the online correspondents sex 😕

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