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Posted: 10 years ago
The Scientology concept seems interesting.

Scientology states that it has no set dogma on God and allows individuals to come to their own understanding of God
Posted: 10 years ago
what to say abt this topic..we humans got tremendous capacity in the form of brain..but even sharpest brain like newton was not able to break nature/s rule..what we ate yest.is difficutl to remember in this busy routine then there are less chances to remember every sec.of life then dnt think abt past life or whole past life...
Posted: 10 years ago
 
All life is One though forms seem many and the love we all share is not in any way different.
Posted: 10 years ago
Are we intrigued by the other side because we cannot know it?  It must be mutual, the other side is intrigued by mortal world hence the rebirth after death.
 
 
Posted: 10 years ago
Hey where is the topic starter ?
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Perhaps gone back for further research !
Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by Rehanism



I am not a medical student and I may not be the right person to ask about bodily functions. However, modern understanding is that death is not a single step process. It takes place slowly over some time, which is why atleast theoretically it is possible to 'revive the dead' by appropriate medical treatment shortly after medical death. I believe there have been cases where people have been resuscitated sometimes after symptoms of death though there's a chance they might sink into coma or lose memory due to lack of blood supply to brain. Beyond a certain time the major body organs like brain suffer irreparable damage. Though, admittedly our understanding of the phenomena is limited at present, but hopefully in future we'll acquire better understanding.

However even if there's no such explanation or understanding on the topics of death and consciousness, it doesn't automatically prove those grand claims you made. The burden of proof rests upon those who make claims. Therefore its upto you to provide POSITIVE evidence that can be tested independently in favour of after life / soul / reincarnation or whatever else you believe in, which you haven't so far. That's why I called yours an Argument from Ignorance. Can't explain, therefore invoke God / magic answers. 5000 years back people had no idea how storms and rainfall occurs or why comets fall. They invented gods to fill the gaps. They had no idea how eclipses occur, so they surmised that demons ate up the sun and moon temporarily. However all those theological explanations were proven wrong or redundant.

If I don't know something, I must confess I don't know. I don't see any harm with accepting that we are presently unaware of lot of things. But that doesn't mean I am bound to accept any outlandish claim or supernatural explanation without evidence.


But i am...and i have studied forensic medicine..and as rehanism says, death is a process...the difference between a living and a dead body is function..loss of function..its a dead body..maintainence of the same function with same anatomy is live body..now what is this function...?? (no it is not "soul" and definitely not "krsna") ..function is the exchange of chemicals and ions among the cells of the body..in simple terms ... "flow of energy" whch our intelligent ancestors (who came much b4 krsna..the actual one, not the one u guys have dreamed up!) calld "atma" or soul..which is the difference between live and dead body! as a body dies..the energy is very gradually returned to mother nature thru decomposition...this energy is now a part of the universe as whole..and is again redistributed to every form of life from amoeba to a bee to a tree to oceans and also humans...so in a way, wen we die, every single one of us are "reborn" as the sea, the sun, the trees, the animals etc...it is very much like the water cycle we study in 5th class...
then the child question...he does not grow because its dead,,the counter argument is in your own question!...death=loss of function=no growth as growth is a function of a juvenile body!!...
counterarguments and criticism much appreciated

Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by Summer3


Truth is that which never changes and I guess we are all shining on borrowed light.
The topic on Consciousness is most interesting and mentally challenging and we are expected to go beyond the mind to experience it. It seems as if there is a wall dividing Total consciousness and Limited consciousness.


conscious is nothing but our own nervous system in medical/scientific language! our five senses and the brain make up the consciousness. limited consciousness is only experiencing the obvious stimulus/changes environment like a car on road, sound on radio etc...whereas total consciousness is training our brain to utilize its own potential to detect the much subtle changes in environment and processing them..like the changes in atmospheric pressure, the speed of the wind...percentage of humidity in the air..the direction of nearest water-body...it is astonishing how much our nervous system can detect..every person on earth who has clairvoyance, experiences telepathy etc has consciously  or subconciously learnt to train their senses and if a person succeeds in utilizing the potential of all their senses, they have total conciousness!
Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by JayaJagannath


Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life, philosophical/religious facts, theories etc.
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Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- '1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your '1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

lets say when i was 1 month old, i was better at computing than shakuntala devi! and i could drive...no wait...i was a race car champion!! and i was a human encyclopedia...but i cant remember all this stuff 😭😭😭... hence it mite be true!! i just happened to have forgotten about it!! what a coincidence...


that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.

you are totally right!! the scientists are imagining!! they are people who collect in huge buildings all over the world and stare of into space and daydream!! and we at sanantan dharm are busy in conducting experiments all day long!! oh wait, no...we dont need experiments!! we read a book! by our leader! and we know that everything the book says is the truth...because the book says "hey reader i tell u the truth!"...still its better than the daydreaming scientists...
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
Right, the authority!! let me tell u a bit about the penomenon of "authority" ..this is a proven fact that authority makes an individual feel irrresponsible about his/her actions! translation...authority is a psychological tool to make a human being commit acts against his/her character..like killing people, mass destruction, pain...it basically can make u a psychopath because you dont take the responsibility of your actions!(i dint do anything! he made me do it! his fault, not mine!) proof: the world wars...
The Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. They measured the willingness of study participants to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
similarly the authority in this scenario is rendering you irresponsible of what you believe in! where is the neccessity of making the research?
this question is beyond ridiculous !!
what wou are saying is that if someone comes and tells us 3+4= red...we should all say in unision..absolutely right!! why should the question arise that 3+4 should be a number??in other words, why do humans need to think?? yes sure...why do we need to think...we should just obey the commands srila prbhupada gives us...oh wait...one tiny problem though..were not robots!..shit...sooo close!!...
do u know that if srila prabhupad had not "researched" krsna...there would have been no iskcon or sanatran dharma?
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in this world no '1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

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cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
out of the four "problems" you cited, only disease is a problem..old age and death and birth are but natural..they are problems if not in balance,,like too many births, too less deaths=overpop, too less birth+too many deaths=less pop, aging if it is premature...
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex..we all  know this..dont need krsna to tell us...maybe you, not us (thank god!), No gambling(ditto..sad though,,u guys need to be told this!), No drugs ( No tea & coffee..dont take a paracetamol..crocin when u get fever..it is a drug,,,as for addictive substances, we know tht too! without god telling us! just imigine!! ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's ) il leave non veg for life if u just xplain how xactly it will make me "happy" let alone healthy?

5th thing is whatever you eat '1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna ) ok..and what xactly will happen if i do that?? il gain happiness? how exactly??

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".ditto!
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.important for what, exactly? happiness? i get that by feeding the poor, the stray animals and birds etc...but lets put all that food in front of a nonexistant gods idol and sing!

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily. how this will produce "the effect" you cannot say..ok then..il try it..oh wait..i already did that..and behold! nothing!
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every'1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.👏and why not? im great, my master is great, rest all are fools!! (y? because my book says so!!) i read harry potter last year and now im a wizard! u dont believe it? ok,,,dont..i dont care because everyone in the world who does not believe im harry potter is busy foolish and totally idiot! also...give me one thing that is practical about your arguments?
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every '1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( www.asitis.com {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every'1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death. people at iskcon need to stop trying to impose their so called religion on everybody in sight...all it does is make you seem like a possessed idiot which what the rest of the world calls you. your practices of feeding the people healthy food irrespective of caste gender or anything are very appreciable. advertise yourself in full glory to someone who is intrested and wants to understand..treating yourselves as superiors and others as busy idiots will never get you anywhere as a religious group..the less you do this and the more you serve the public, the more the followers would come! 
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