Originally posted by: zorrro
Ah -thanks for the clarifications. Better late than never. Some of the earlier comments did seem to suggest the ludicrous 😆
If that is the case then I think you grossly misunderstood or completely missed the points being made.
Originally posted by: zorrro
Howsoever a mother may discuss the issue of short skirts with her son I feel sure that no mother would instigate her son towards a crime.
And I think you are still missing the point. No one said any mother would instigate the son.
Originally posted by: zorrro
If he does so it has to be because of his own twisted mind. Discouragement or encouragement of any dress has nothing to do with it otherwise the rate of rapes in countries with a more liberal sense of dressing wouldn't be as high as they are reported to be.
There are may complex factors that work in conjunction to create rape culture. Different countries and societies have their own version of it.
The crux of it is that how parents raise children impacts how children reach to social stimuli. How society is structured influences what stimuli people receive. These factors combined with some natural instincts determine how the person acts in the end.
There are many subliminal things that create rape culture without people realizing it. A lot of it has to do with respecting women and diversity. How objection to short skirts can create misinterpretation that such women are loose and be escalated by other influences was merely at example. The bottom line is educating people about how they perceive women.
Why keep missing the forest by obsessing over one tree?
And what is the harm in accepting that we need to change some things? If by chance it doesn't make a difference -the changes aren't terrible or denying people their rights to values? Just how they discuss them. If by chance it does a difference - aren't we risking too much? Why resist change when nobody loses from change?
Originally posted by: zorrro
Alcohol is a contributing factor not only in the criminal but also in the victim. Why undermine or overlook that!
Some citations may help. Quoting from no less than the executive summary of a whitehouse report 😛
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/sexual_assault_report_1-21-14.pdf
"Campus Sexual Assault: A Particular Problem. As noted, 1 in 5 women has been sexually assaulted while she's in college. The dynamics of college life appear to fuel the problem, as many victims are abused while they're drunk, under the influence of drugs, passed out, or otherwise incapacitated. Most college victims are assaulted by someone they know - and parties are often the site of these crimes. Notably, campus assailants are often serial offenders: one study found that of the men who admitted to committing rape or attempted rape, some 63% said they committed an average of six rapes each. College sexual assault survivors suffer from high levels of mental health problems (like depression and PTSD) and drug and alcohol abuse. Reporting rates are also particularly low."
No one is undermining or overlooking the issues caused by alcohol. Again the important factor is temperance in consumption and how people are taught about alcohol.
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