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oh my god. I was not here yday. So many pages and so many lovely arguements.
Everyone's argument is so amazing. I love you all guys. :)
Netra, Karthikka, Giri: Super. 👏👏👏
I loved Rojakka's comparison of dole and nee ennenna. I hope the younger generation will understand the ilai marai kaay explanation. Rojakka, you explained the term very well. 👏👏
Karthikka wrote: (Ilamai idho idho)
What message is that song supposed to convey? That every teenage girl, who are innocent and pure, are eyeing this middle-aged Lothario and that is what "youth" and "enjoyment" is all about?? That college girls, instead of concentrating on their studies, have their eyes on a tightly-clad in gold pants Kamal who would look more at hoNowme with the Village People (see http://www.stonewallvets.org/images/TheVillagePeople.jpg) and have another group of people having their kangal on his meethu. (I still have that image of Kamal in tight gold trousers in my mind. *shudders* I know that it has nothing to do with the debate, but ladies, I never recovered!!!)
Karthikka: Eyeing on the hero is not "youth"(ilamai) and "enjoyment"(inimai) as per the lyrics.The hero enters the stage and says he is the personification of ilamai and inimai. He is not telling them that eyeing him is ilamai and inimai.
(Ok, off the debate, if a man fully covered with pants gives you the shudders, I pity your condition when you see young girls exposing so much these days.)
Oram po song:
Other than the eve teasing part, my ignorant mind doesn't find anything with double meaning in this song. I am not very smart. :)
Please watch here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjJdwCfVF4w
Enna thavam seydhanai song: Karthikka, it is a good point that old lyrics make a good impact on the newer generation. In 80's there are whole barathiyar songs like nalladhor veenai seydhe,(varumaiyin niram sivappu)
jaadhi malli poo charame (barathidasan) (azhagan)
All ezhaavadhu manidhan songs
thamizhukkum amudhenru per(Panchavarnak kili) 60's
and lots of other whole songs have appeared. That doesn't give credit to 80's songs.
I am glad that younger generation which is not exposed to such good literature enjoy these classical songs.
I like it in parthiban kanavu but the lyrics that follow... cigarette, meesai...explanations....doesn't appeal too much.
Husband baby comparison may be not your cup of tea but opinions differ. We respect your opinion but there is no denying the fact that the song is widely popular and liked by so many.
I agree that there are good songs in recent times about friendship, nature, relationships etc because the lyricist cannot write anything vulgar there.
Like you, I was expecting the 60's as old times and was disappointed. But there are songs which are not classic even in the 60's. Good and bad is present everywhere. What matters is the ratio.
Netra: The younger generation have the time to call FM stations and dedicate songs to friends or lovers. Even if some older generation people call and ask for old songs, channels like sun tv in "neengal kettavai" and pepsi uma programme want to telecast and popularise only new songs. If a caller leaves it to the preferance of uma"edhavadhu oru paatu podunga" they will immediately telecast ONLY new songs. So, when you take vote also, same thing will happen. Only younger generation will cast votes. After next 20 years, you will be arguing the same thing with the then younger generation saying oldies(2000-2010) are better. I hope times will change and bring out good lyrics. But I am glad that atleast karthika and me agree that 60's are the evergreen songs. :) Netra, I quoted new songs from the movies I have seen and I don't know many of them. There was one song in the malaysia cultural night programme danced by Nameetha, "saturday night partyku polaam variyaa?" nalla munnetram.
Netra says:
What else is needed more? And Fluid, I don't have to read the songs that have been quoted for the old section because if I do, I would be fast asleep.
Pls don't say like this. Someone else may say the same thing about the lines you quoted.
Giri: Loosu megam..hilarious version.
So, you agree that only words like this would appeal to the current generation? So sad ma.
Your attempt to defend kalyanam song.... kadavule, giri why why? kattikkalaam and peththukkalaam ku 2 line le 2 different meanings?? Even the lyricist would not have known these meanings when he wrote that song.
Giri, Caryn, Karthikka, Netra: I enjoyed this debate very much and I am glad that I got a chance to interact with 2 new people karthika and Netra. You have done justice to your arguments.
Our team members Rojakka, Jas, Uma and Kavi have done a wonderful job.
👏👏👏
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