About Mahabhart Epic--Post your Queries - Page 7

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

To whom was she married, would you tell me? hehe! She was 1 year elder...And I dunno about spiritual and things but they both loved each other the most and then came anyone else. That too, with only Thakurji having 16,108 Ranis in which there were his 8 Patranis excluding RadhaRani. From where those 16,108 came is also a different story but well, it doesnt need to be mentioned here so I ll leave it 😊

Originally posted by: akhl

Dear ~angelz~,

From your posts, I can guess that you are a Gaudiya Vaishnav. Nothing wrong in that. But, as you know, Gaudiya Vaishnavas have their own interpretations of scriptures. And there are various other interpretations as well.
Excuse me akhl, I am not a Gaudiya watever ok? I am a hindu and a brahmin. And I dont hve any own interpretations of wat I hve written! Why dont you ask the very high scholars and confirm wat I wrote? Also, plz dont guess and write about someones religion. I dont know about all but maybe some like me wudnt appreciate it. Thanks.

 

You have asked who Radha was married to. Some scriptures say that she was married to Krishna's uncle Vrishbhanu---Are you OKAY? You know who Vrishbhanu is? Sri Vrishbhanu is RadhaRanis father! OMG! Cmon, think before writing! And her mothers name was Keerti! Plz think before writing! Your calling a father, the husband! Thats SOOO highly wrong. Of course, Brahm Vaivart Puran says that it was a shadow Radha, who married Vrishbhanu and real Radha married Krishn....RadhaRani had NO shadow okay? Do you know how she was born? She wasnt born through stomach. Wud you like to tell me how she was born? Shes not a human! Like someone was talking about death and life in respect to her. Shes much much far above life and death.

 

Outside Gaudiya Vaishnavism, majority of schools of faith do not consider Garg Samhita as authentic--And how can you say that again? Have you read it? I do not write things just by listening. Why dont you read Garg Samhita? Who told you Garg Samhita is not considered authentic? Which schools? Plz okay? Thats highly unacceptable. Do not merge hindu religion and its scriptures etc. with your english stuff! And Brahm Vaivart Puran is obviously of much later origin. I have nothing against sage Garg.---Well, it doesnt bother me but one shud know the facts before writing. My own gotra is Garg.😊---You make me surprised then! Why dont you read it and get correct news on it? It is just that I want to tell about various schools of thought...Ahan? PLZ do! I wud want to know as well.

 

You have written that Bhagavatam refers to Radha secretly. But why secretly? One reason is given is that on taking Radha's name, Sukdev would have gone into trans. Do you also subscribe to the same view or some other? If it is the same, then I agree that it is a possibility but not the only possibility. Another possibility is that Radha is not mentioned in Bhagavatam at all. When the name Radha is not clearly mentioned, how can we claim that she is mentioned secretly?

You know why I didnt write it? Because many ppl misuse the info/make fun of it. And not everyones worthy of knowing about RadhaRani whose even higher than Thakur ji. Anyways, I am writing though I dont really wish to since.
First, let me ask you. Whats your name? Akhl? Avinash? Any other petname at home? If you are called by either names, wont you respond? Or you'll just listen by Avinash?
Same way, RadhaRani did not hve just one name but 1000 names. For that you can buy Radha Sehstranam Granth and then read Bhagvad. You talk about Bhagavatam not hving RadhaRanis name right? Check again:--
Open Bhagvad ji. Within the Dasham Skandh, 30th adhaya(lesson) and 28th shlok..read it and see the name:-- RADHIKA. And further on you can read the story below.
Another:--
Again, Dasham Skandh, 1st lesson and 23rd shlok...read it and see the name:-- PRIYA. And again, further on you can read the story below.
Like this her name has been mentioned 16 other times. Read Radha Sehstranam Granth to know her names and then read Bhagvadji.
Whenever Shukdev ji wud take RadhaRanis name, his samadhi wud be put up.
Next, RadhaRani was Shukhdevjis Guru. And if you wud know it too, then a Shishya never ever takes his/her Gurus name. In his previous birth, Shukdev ji was a parrot in RadhaRanis Nikunj Van and she loved him immensly. Shukdev ji wud chant 'Shri Radhe, Shri Radhe' and roam around the Van.
RadhaRani wud make him sit on his hand and everday and tell him, Shuk say 'PUTRA KRISHNAM VADHA'(My son, say 'Shri Krishna') and he wud chant aloud, 'Shri Krishna, Shri Krishna'. RadhaRani wud get happy by listening him since she loved the name Krishna.
RadhaRani and Thakur ji wanted to make prachar-prasar[the actual word, its something like aware of their doings(and for heavens sake, plz every1 understand the word doings in the right sense)] about themselves and thus they sent Shukdevji Maharaj  to earth and he came as VedVyas ji Maharajs son and through Bhagavatam, he made the world know about RadhaRani and Thakur ji.

 

You have written that Krishna Charitra is a part of Mahabharat. No, Krishna Charitra is not a part of Mahabharat. It is written by poet Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyaya---Is that right? Are you sure? Have you READ Mahabharat? I am not saying seen - not the B.R. Chopra or Ekta MBs but the epic WRITTEN by VedVyas ji. Have you read that? The 1,25,000 shloks! Have you? Or hve you read Krishna Charitra also?
Let me first tell one thing...Even Bhagvad ji was made by combining all the Purans etc. of the world by Vedji. Even our books we read in school, take english for example...Stories/Poems mentioned in it, many are also TAKEN from somewhere. Similarly additions are made to things. Think this first and then think whether Krishna Charitra was a part of the WRITTEN MB epic and its 1,25,000 shlok by VedVyas ji and then think whether RadhaRani was a part of MB or not. Ok?

Originally posted by: ppiyu

I learn from someone that those 16108 women were those who were abandoned by their families bcoz they were kidnapped by demons. Krishna saved them and gave them shelter. Since he was their Saviour and they had no one else, they worshiped him and considered him as their husband.

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

Excuse me akhl, I am not a Gaudiya watever ok? I am a hindu and a brahmin. And I dont hve any own interpretations of wat I hve written! Why dont you ask the very high scholars and confirm wat I wrote? Also, plz dont guess and write about someones religion. I dont know about all but maybe some like me wudnt appreciate it. Thanks.[/quote]

As I said, it was just a guess because what you have written is what Gaudiya Vaishnavas believe. You have written that you are hindu and brahmin. But not all brahmin hindus believe the same thing. Regarding talking to scholars, well not all scholars believe the same thing.

 

[quote]Are you OKAY? You know who Vrishbhanu is? Sri Vrishbhanu is RadhaRanis father! OMG! Cmon, think before writing! And her mothers name was Keerti! Plz think before writing! Your calling a father, the husband! Thats SOOO highly wrong.[/quote]
Oops, I made a mistake with name. Camatkara Candrika says that she married Abhimanyu (not Arjun's son but the son of a woman named Jatila). Some other traditions call her husband's name as Chandrasen. I will check Brahm Vaivart Puran to check what this Puran calls as shadow Radha's husband's name.

[quote]RadhaRani had NO shadow okay? Do you know how she was born? She wasnt born through stomach. Wud you like to tell me how she was born? Shes not a human! Like someone was talking about death and life in respect to her. Shes much much far above life and death.[/quote]
I did not use the word shadow in the sense in which we normally talk about shadow (which is formed when light is blocked by an object). What I mean to say is that, according to Brahm Vaivart Puran, Radha created another lady, who looked just like Radha.

 

[quote]And how can you say that again? Have you read it? I do not write things just by listening. Why dont you read Garg Samhita? Who told you Garg Samhita is not considered authentic? Which schools? Plz okay? Thats highly unacceptable. Do not merge hindu religion and its scriptures etc. with your english stuff![/quote]
I have read. It is a fact that there are many Hindu scholars who do not agree with everything written in Garg Samhita.

[quote]Open Bhagvad ji. Within the Dasham Skandh, 30th adhaya(lesson) and 28th shlok..read it and see the name:-- RADHIKA. [/quote]

That shloka uses the word aaraadhitah. Some people interprete it to mean that the sholoka talks about Radha. I agree that is a possible interpretation. But aaraadhitah more directly means "venerated'.

[quote]Again, Dasham Skandh, 1st lesson and 23rd shlok...read it and see the name:-- PRIYA. [/quote]
Why should PRIYA mean Radha only? And are you sure you are talking about this shloka? I am asking because Sri Praphupada translates this shloka as:-

In the house of Vasudeva will the Supreme Lord, the original transcendental person, personally appear and so should [also] the wives of the godly, in order to please Him, all take birth.

Let me know if you are using some other translation.

[quote]Whenever Shukdev ji wud take RadhaRanis name, his samadhi wud be put up.[/quote]
On one hand, you say that Radha is mentioned 18 times in Bhagavatam and on the other hand, you say that Sukdev did not mention her name directly. This means that Sukdev referred to Radha in an indirect way. If so, then how can we be so sure that he indeed referred to Radha?

[quote]Is that right? Are you sure? Have you READ Mahabharat? I am not saying seen - not the B.R. Chopra or Ekta MBs but the epic WRITTEN by VedVyas ji. Have you read that? The 1,25,000 shloks! Have you? Or hve you read Krishna Charitra also?[/quote]
I have read both and Krishna Charitra is written by poet Bankin Chandra Chattopadhyay.

[quote]Let me first tell one thing...Even Bhagvad ji was made by combining all the Purans etc. of the world by Vedji.